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		<title>Comment on A zoo-keeper's dilemma (and an ele with an unfortunate name in today's climate)</title>
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			<name>Washington Times</name>
			<uri>http://www.washingtontimes.com/</uri>
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		<updated>2008-11-12T12:59:48Z</updated>
		<published>2008-11-12T12:53:16Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[...not every elephant ended up in a zoo on purpose.<BR> <BR>_________________________<BR> <BR>
<H1>Remembrances: Hocker</H1>
<H2>What to do with a gift elephant? </H2>
<H3> <BR>Tuesday, November 11, 2008 <SPAN class=yahooBuzzBadge-form id=yahooBuzzBadge-form> </H3> </SPAN>
<P>From July 1971 until August 1972, I was a member of the Military Equipment Delivery Team Cambodia (MEDTC), committed to the re-formation and building of the Cambodian national armed forces (Forces Armees Nationales Khmeres, or FANK). </P>
<P>How I arrived in Cambodia is a story unto itself. In 1963, my wife and I were at the Army Language School in Monterey, Calif., to study German for an Olmsted Scholarship at the University of Freiburg. Because I spoke German from my earlier days in Bamberg, I finished early and was permitted to monitor the French class for about 1 1/2 months. </P>
<P>As I was about to leave, I asked to take the French test to see how I had done. Upon opening the test, I found the pictures and questions were identical to those on the German test I had taken earlier, only in French. The instructor who graded my test was amazed at how well I had done after just 1 1/2 months and gave me a "fully fluent" mark that was forwarded to my records in Washington. </P>
<P>In 1971, I was on my way back to Vietnam for the second time. My family went on ahead to Thailand, where my wife, Barbara, had obtained a teaching position with the Bangkok International School. When I reported to the clerk at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, Calif., for the flight to Vietnam, he said my orders had been changed. Because I spoke French, I was being reassigned to an embassy someplace else in the world. Although he didn't know where, he said I should report in the following day and there would be more information. With my family on the way to Bangkok, I had visions of ending up in a French-speaking country in Africa. </P>
<P>When I returned to Travis, I was told I should catch a flight to Saigon, report to the Military Assistance Command Vietnam (MACV) headquarters and find the office marked MEDTC. Thinking they had the wrong person, I said I was not a medical officer but an infantryman. Didn't make any difference, the clerk said, just go to Saigon. </P> <!-- /inline-photo -->
<P>Upon arrival at MACV headquarters in Saigon, I found the office marked MEDTC. Brig. Gen. Theodore C. Mataxis greeted and welcomed me as the "French speaker" of the team he was forming to raise, train and arm the new Cambodian armed forces. He immediately sent me to Phnom Penh to set up a team house for him, his chief of staff and me. Initially we were just authorized to have 16 military personnel in the country, but after I left, that grew to 62. The first months were spent getting organized, becoming acquainted with our Cambodian counterparts and finding out how to contact our support, e.g. Air America and others. </P>
<P>I had many, many "once in a lifetime" close encounters, combat skirmishes and narrow escapes during the year with the FANK, but the following stands out. </P>
<P>In September 1971, Adm. John S. McCain, commander in chief, Pacific Command, and father of then-POW Lt. Cmdr. John McCain, visited our team. Of course, being the boss of the entire theater, he paid a call on the leader of the country, Marshal Lon Nol, whom we had installed a few months earlier to replace Prince Norodom Sihanouk. </P>
<P>Lon Nol presented Adm. McCain a token of his appreciation - an elephant named Chamrocun, which means prosperity in the Khmer language. He was not fully grown, but he was quite large. </P>
<P>Now, what does an admiral do with such a gift in a far-off country with no means to take care of it and no way to refuse it? Naturally, he turned to the one-star general, who then turned to me and said, "John, handle it." </P>
<P>As I later learned from the admiral's staff, the zoo in Hawaii had no use for a bull elephant. However, the admiral was good friends with Los Angeles Mayor Sam Yorty, and I learned that the Los Angeles Zoo could use another bull elephant. I arranged for a zoo manager and a veterinarian to travel to Phnom Penh and for their visit to coincide with the arrival of a C-141, loaded with 105 mm howitzers destined for the FANK artillery. </P>
<P>I had two huge steel containers welded together and had the interior lined with plywood with bumper pads all around at the elephant's shoulder height. At the base of the container, I had holes drilled for the elimination of fluid wastes. I had notified the Air Force what the return cargo would be, so the crew was prepared with a large rubber tarpaulin to cover the aircraft floor. </P>
<P>The day of Chamrocun's journey arrived, and I led the zoo representatives to the field behind our team house, which backed up to a FANK compound where Chamrocun was being kept. The extra-large container had been delivered on a low-slung truck. </P>
<P>After introductions, the zoo veterinarian took out his pellet gun and prepared to tranquilize the elephant for the journey. The FANK guard raised his AK-47 and aimed it at the veterinarian - it was a terrible sin to kill an elephant. </P>
<P>I quickly managed, in French mixed with broken Khmer, to convince the guard that this would not kill Chamrocun but only make him tranquil for the trip to the United States. When the guard lowered the rifle, we all breathed a sigh of relief. </P>
<P>After that, things proceeded as planned, and we bade farewell to the zoo representatives and to Chamrocun as they left Ponchetong airport bound for California. </P>
<P>Years later, I visited the Los Angeles Zoo and called on Chamrocun, but he didn't recognize me. Who said elephants have great memories? </P>
<P> <EM>JOHN R. HOCKER<BR>Bethesda</EM> <BR> <BR> <IMG alt="" src="http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/img/photos/2008/11/11/20081110-201552-pic-819924291.jpg" width="100%"> </P>
<P class=caption>John R. Hocker, in Cambodia, ponders what to do with Chamrocun, a bull elephant presented to Adm. John S. McCain by the Cambodian head of state, Marshal Lon Nol, in 1971.</P>]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on A zoo-keeper's dilemma (and an ele with an unfortunate name in today's climate)</title>
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			<name>John Roberts</name>
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		<updated>2008-11-08T15:04:54Z</updated>
		<published>2008-11-08T15:04:54Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[<FONT face=Garamond size=3>Ah well, it wasn't me being clever then, she is named for a bad pun - how times have changed!</FONT>]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on A zoo-keeper's dilemma (and an ele with an unfortunate name in today's climate)</title>
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			<name>Auckland City Council</name>
			<uri>http://www.scoop.co.nz</uri>
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		<updated>2008-11-08T15:01:33Z</updated>
		<published>2008-11-08T14:56:31Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[Jumbo birthday bash for Kashin<BR>Wednesday, 5 November 2008, 12:28 pm<BR>Press Release: Auckland City Council <BR> <BR>Auckland City Council<BR>Media release<BR> <BR>4 November 2008<BR> <BR>Jumbo birthday bash for Kashin<BR> <BR>Elephant Kashin, one of Auckland Zoo’s oldest and most recognisable residents, is turning 40, and everyone is invited to her jumbo-sized party on Sunday, 16 November.<BR> <BR>The special day, supported by ASB, will be packed full of fun and excitement for the birthday girl, visitors to the zoo, and fellow elephant Burma (26 years), who will also be celebrating her birthday. <BR> <BR>To mark the occasion, Kashin and Burma will start their day by being painted in a traditional Thai style that symbolises a celebration. They will then make their way to the Band Rotunda where guests can sing happy birthday and watch them demolish elephant-sized birthday cakes. <BR> <BR>The celebration continues with Kashin and Burma treating the crowd to an elephant painting demonstration. An elephant encounter that will give visitors an opportunity to see the elephants in action will follow, before the elephants head off for a birthday swim in Hippo River (minus the hippos!).<BR> <BR>Along with games, giveaways and spot prizes, the celebration also includes special guest Ruud ‘the-bug-man’ Kleinpaste. Popular with kids large and small, Ruud will treat the crowd to some fascinating facts about elephants and bugs.<BR> <BR>While Kashin’s keepers are busy putting the final touches on her party, Kashin is taking it all in her giant stride.<BR> <BR>“Kashin’s like the Queen Mum, the matriarch of the zoo family. She is very intelligent and she knows what she likes – and that’s definitely food ahead of exercise. For a birthday treat, we’ll be giving her a day off her normal exercise routine and will generally make a big fuss of her and ensure she turns 40 in grand style,” says elephant team leader, Andrew Coers.<BR> <BR>In the elephant world, 40 is middle aged, but Kashin’s chronic medical conditions, mainly related to arthritis, mean that she feels her age a little these days. <BR> <BR>“Kashin’s definitely slowed down in recent years, but despite her chronic ailments she is still a very active elephant who would put many a ‘couch potato’ to shame,” says Mr Coers.<BR> <BR>Helping to make this event possible are ASB, Animal Planet, SKY TV and ZM.<BR> <BR>Event Details<BR> <BR>• Sunday 16 November, 11am to 2pm (rain date Sunday 23 November)<BR>• <BR>• normal zoo admission prices apply<BR>• <BR>• <BR>• <BR>About Kashin<BR> <BR>• She arrived at Auckland Zoo in 1972 on a jumbo jet aged four years <BR>• <BR>• her name comes from an ASB naming competition (“cash-in”) and she is the elephant on the ASB moneyboxes <BR>• <BR>• Kashin weighs approximately 3.6 tonne<BR>• <BR>• she loves food, people (especially her keepers), praise and attention<BR>• <BR>• she’s not such a big fan of exercise these days, but does love swimming in her poopool<BR>• <BR>• TV2 is screening ‘Kashin This Is Your Life’ on Sunday 23 November at 7pm<BR>]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on On top of the world - mahouts and champagne.</title>
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			<name>Steph</name>
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		<updated>2008-10-30T09:25:11Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-30T09:17:59Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[khor sadaaeng khwaam yindee kaa!]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on Blimey (there must be something in the nectar)</title>
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			<name>Mark Heather</name>
			<uri>http://www.goldentriangle.anantara.com</uri>
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		<updated>2008-10-28T08:18:59Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-28T08:13:55Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[...and we spotted this at one of our Rice Paddy Dining by Designs the other night.<BR> <BR> <IMG src="http://images.quickblogcast.com/26695-25360/IMG00228.jpg" width=700 border=0>]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on Remembering old skills for the babies and the environment (once a logger, always a logger)</title>
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		<id>tag:news.helpingelephants.org,2008-10-22:1464045</id>
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			<name>John Roberts</name>
			<uri>http://www.helpingelephants.org</uri>
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		<updated>2008-10-22T07:20:49Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-22T07:20:49Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[It is a good read isn't it!<br /><br />The webcam is now linked also from <a href="http://www.helpingelephants.org">http://www.helpingelephants.org</a> and the Ele News page as before and from <a href="http://www.anantara.com/elephantcam/default.aspx">http://www.anantara.com/elephantcam/default.aspx</a>]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on Remembering old skills for the babies and the environment (once a logger, always a logger)</title>
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			<name>Debbie Harper</name>
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		<updated>2008-10-22T01:09:18Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-22T01:09:18Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[Thanks for that John.  I'm hopeful that I might see something in the morning if I get up in time, unfortunately its all a bit dark now! I have missed the camera! I also wanted to let you know that I had recently read through To The Elephant Graveyard, Tarquin Hall, which is one of your recommended books.  It was an excellent read, which unfortunately I flew through, and I intend to work my way through the list of the others now!<br /><br />Take care.<br /><br />Debbie]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on "East meets West (Song for Ewong)" premiers 8th of July!</title>
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			<name>Helen</name>
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		<updated>2008-10-22T07:11:09Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-21T19:43:42Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[This gives you an idea of the piece but is not the best recording! The Cd {a collection of saxophone music by British composer Paul Stiles including this piece commissioned by HCSC &amp; dedicated to th beautiful EWong!}will be much better and should be available before Christmas to raise money for GTAEF and their quest for more land for the eles.]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on Why we do what we do (those of a sensitive disposition look away now)</title>
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		<author>
			<name>John Roberts</name>
			<uri>http://www.helpingelephants.org</uri>
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		<updated>2008-10-21T08:17:17Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-21T08:17:17Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[An update from Lung Lord, Plai Bounmee was from the same village as Pang Kam Mool (the big eared older lady from Four Seasons) came from in Amphur Satuk and they had indeed been in Bangkok only two days.<br /><br />This is the second elephant hit down there in the same week, another from Ta Klang was hit and injured in the same way as Tawan but can still walk, the mahout is still in hospital.<br /><br />Lung Lord mentions that Bangkok is now full and he daily receives phonecalls asking if we have room or money to take more.<br /><br />The land project continues.]]></content>
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		<title>Comment on Remembering old skills for the babies and the environment (once a logger, always a logger)</title>
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		<author>
			<name>John Roberts</name>
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		<updated>2008-10-10T17:53:51Z</updated>
		<published>2008-10-10T17:53:51Z</published>
		<content type="html"><![CDATA[Dear Debbie<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, the old one died in a storm, sorry - for now you have to type <A href="http://119.63.65.236">http://119.63.65.236</A>&nbsp;into your browser and log on as a guest - no navigation, sorry, but we're working on it!<BR><BR>Sorry<BR><BR>John]]></content>
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